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Dxtory => Help & Support => Topic started by: Pincho93 on September 18, 2015, 05:50:01 AM

Title: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Pincho93 on September 18, 2015, 05:50:01 AM
So I just downloaded the trial version of Dxtory together with Lagarith. I'm recording in 1080p RGB. The video recorded is really good, but when I render it with handbreak or Adobe Premiere, the end result is way worse than the recorded one.

Anyone knows of a way to get the files size smaller and keeping the quality?
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Sarias89 on September 18, 2015, 07:28:06 AM
Use it to record the UtVideo codecs.
http://www.videohelp.com/software/Ut-Video-Codec-Suite
These are actually small videos with very good quality.
Adobe Premier is too complicated for me so I can not comment. But under Sony Vegas, there is no quality loss.
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Tymorafarr on September 18, 2015, 08:35:59 PM
IIRC, Ut Video has poorer compression ratio than Lagarith so it's a bad choice to recommend that if he wants a smaller file size.
You can try using x264vfw codec instead. Very efficient in compression but runs a little slower than the other popular codecs. Offers more choices to adjust your video quality through rate controls if you don't want lossless recordings.
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Pincho93 on September 19, 2015, 12:44:11 AM
Ty for the suggestions, but Ut video and Lagarith aren't that far apart, so for me it doesn't really matter which one I use. I just need the rendered result to be as close to the original fila as possible. Would love to hear from someone that uses premiere to get good quality.
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: aznricepuff on September 19, 2015, 01:58:06 AM
What render settings are you using in premiere - codec, bitrate (if applicable), etc?

If you are rendering to a lossless format with premiere, there should be no loss in quality (barring colorspace conversions).

If you are rendering to lossy formats (like h.264), then you can increase quality by increasing bitrate.
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Pincho93 on September 19, 2015, 02:01:18 AM
I will be honest with you, just started using premiere for like 2 weeks, so I'm a noob with it. Could you recommend some good settings?
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: aznricepuff on September 19, 2015, 02:05:20 AM
I'll need some more information in order to answer your question.

What resolution and framerate are you targeting? What are you planning to do with the exported videos (upload to youtube, archive, etc)?
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Pincho93 on September 19, 2015, 03:04:16 AM
1080p 30 fps for youtube. Multiple audio channels
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: aznricepuff on September 19, 2015, 03:30:25 AM
For video, use H.264, 2-pass, ~20 Mbps. Check "Render at max bit depth" and "Use maximum render quality".

For audio, use AAC-LC, constant bitrate, >=256kbps for stereo, 512kbps for 5.1.
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Pincho93 on September 19, 2015, 05:48:33 AM
Will give it a try and let you know the result.
Title: Re: Lagarith rendering quality
Post by: Pincho93 on September 19, 2015, 05:57:05 AM
Ok tested your settings. They're good, but not like the original, guess I will just use this quality. And since the render qualitry is worse, I might aswell record in a lower quality and record at 60fps.