Dxtory Lagarith Lossless Codec

[InfernalRage]

I'm playing Arma 3 Altis Life and I am trying to record 1080p at 30FPS.  I normally get around 45-60 FPS depending on how heavy the action is.  When I record with Dxtory using the Lagarith Lossless Codec, I get about a 10FPS drop.  When I try 720P, I don't get any performance hit.  What is bottlenecking the recording or can my system just not handle it?  I've put the event information below.

[Dxtory]
Version: 2.0.128
UID: 8ba2eab2-8e92-4d80-8ba4-701ec43c481f

[Dxtory Files]
InstallPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\ExKode\Dxtory2.0
AppNames.txt Size: 1,047 bytes SHA1: 40cd39ab435dbcb3d44eba72b737a05b9a14410b
AudioStreamSplitter.exe Size: 37,424 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.1 SHA1: a2a2c79530d8b6bf8a2babdcf1efba3e5584c0ad
AudioStreamSplitter_ja.txt Size: 134 bytes SHA1: 489a5264d73a47edcce7c92edb131cf63e5e5709
AVIFix.exe Size: 72,192 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.119 SHA1: 7a09d66397e59a821aa710e53f9e241f77a7792a
AVIFix_ja.txt Size: 288 bytes SHA1: 9cab20780686687b84f604c77c73aaae3fd8126d
AVIMux.exe Size: 161,280 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.120 SHA1: 5196d86b22e66459b4dececc675099f8dd16422b
AVIMuxCore.dll Size: 178,176 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.3 SHA1: 77f91e5cbdb6516492937b09e8779fbfce339ad0
AVIMux_ja.txt Size: 1,701 bytes SHA1: fa240715d701f450bb95377aa8517a252329b619
CryptData.pup Size: 84 bytes SHA1: cf9d724807f965d372da4d168bebd78c5258d6ae
Dxtory.exe Size: 576,560 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.128 SHA1: d80062911606b6f963bed25a41b179a83efe95a7
Dxtory64.exe Size: 102,448 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.127 SHA1: cc69798363aac9c1040766a0e79e1ae1757b1ee2
DxtoryCore.dll Size: 6,876,720 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.128 SHA1: f32e541ee725901f7ab07793fea72ebd52c57ce4
DxtoryCore64.dll Size: 6,554,160 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.128 SHA1: d6a6b8d5a4d119a40f85ed5eb69a1f10e7bd02a1
DxtoryHK.dll Size: 154,672 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.126 SHA1: ad2429d46bf8002a104e27297e84173256910f71
DxtoryHK64.dll Size: 173,104 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.126 SHA1: 3a126079e0fb66e05c016d620bea6cb79061673b
DxtoryMM.dll Size: 1,125,936 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.126 SHA1: 798cd56c8dd928496e34fcaba11aa5d7e159b20c
DxtoryMM64.dll Size: 1,137,712 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.126 SHA1: 5211c132c7c4b7751b65ba375e3b832e5decb70e
DxtoryVideo.dll Size: 273,408 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.97 SHA1: b9c1ff13a061e189affef9ae37f5ae142450b189
DxtoryVideo64.dll Size: 303,616 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.97 SHA1: 497ef3f62908d7a1f9362fc347198b900fc7c131
DxtoryVideo64_Install.bat Size: 28 bytes SHA1: 308ae1e37b5e28ff7134beb319faad48280068b0
DxtoryVideo64_Uninstall.bat Size: 31 bytes SHA1: 3fbf8d3c3a5b375eda07e47a64534b91c8df5139
DxtoryVideoSetting.exe Size: 122,368 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.119 SHA1: adb248b7eca7001e64ba19054807ab6556126a87
DxtoryVideoSetting_ja.txt Size: 1,675 bytes SHA1: e532f36bd5ac6255659d240180637484661f0c83
DxtoryVideo_Install.bat Size: 26 bytes SHA1: b00e69772cc1cae9e86fe2b70ca290c488723fd7
DxtoryVideo_Uninstall.bat Size: 29 bytes SHA1: 0b0202cbc7fba373f42e1a6916fc2ad01edaa627
Dxtory_ja.txt Size: 17,473 bytes SHA1: 279546d8f8ea418fd9fb48d357986103d5bf5b4c
EULA_en.txt Size: 1,356 bytes SHA1: 340c6b3425ab78d83c6a8bd344b6cc58d152ce8f
EULA_ja.txt Size: 1,814 bytes SHA1: cded0d38ec6a1cb0e86bc264496deaa28082cb51
ignore_module_list.txt Size: 979 bytes SHA1: b21c3c09c8c0ee4f9f119a53f9c0b23d278261f8
LicReg.dat Size: 7,390 bytes SHA1: f46e444f53f248e5ec85c056a9d2ce4d839bda43
LicReg.exe Size: 96,816 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.4 SHA1: 0d236ac1394a97d35a67c63ec15e45a80f87db5b
LicReg_ja.txt Size: 707 bytes SHA1: 981af64897276c22867952f4972d9c29c6ee35e7
RawCapConv.exe Size: 210,480 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.128 SHA1: cac5e150375323370f68fd73c3e9806d003f82e5
RawCapConv_ja.txt Size: 1,869 bytes SHA1: 12086976f07abfc8d435abeee6c450c3cb2b07cd
RCStream.dll Size: 164,352 bytes Ver: 1.0.0.76 SHA1: 31266452f142cd7c856384945ffc410b2c9c8be9
readme.txt Size: 1,322 bytes SHA1: f8b7e31de7927309f7f3e03936374837906a94d9
Src16x10_Dest4x3.png Size: 40,081 bytes SHA1: 3b4f6332b8b3129ee351a9c96a9c4ac7f6f7a4cd
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unins000.dat Size: 43,608 bytes SHA1: 7360e05977da3d00d0fff7b91614cb7230033753
unins000.exe Size: 1,195,568 bytes Ver: 51.1052.0.0 SHA1: 4785da03210fb503e04f3b0d87424a405081b7d4
unins000.msg Size: 22,701 bytes SHA1: ab7961d64f8b22503c9c7ca4b335fa539b0278a3
UpdateChecker.exe Size: 93,696 bytes Ver: 2.0.0.0 SHA1: 221bd3663f4393b368ebf74d1a892f9379ddbe44
UpdateChecker.ini Size: 238 bytes SHA1: 796da23b4a505bf2ef370dc271d1a80585dff6e2
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[System Information]
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
CPU Instruction Set: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 FMA3 AES
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional  x64
OSVersion: 6.1.7601
OSLanguage: 1033
ServicePack: Service Pack 1
Memory0: BANK 0 8,589,934,592 bytes
Memory1: BANK 1 8,589,934,592 bytes
TotalMemory: 17,179,869,184 bytes
Total Physical Memory: 16,984,850,432 bytes
Available Physical Memory: 8,597,716,992 bytes
Total Page File: 24,547,414,016 bytes
Available Page File: 10,734,493,696 bytes
Total Virtual Memory: 2,147,352,576 bytes
Available Virtual Memory: 1,589,440,512 bytes
PerformanceCounterFrequency: 3897255 (0x3B77A7)
VideoCard: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 Memory: 2,214,592,512 Processor: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family DriverVer: 10.18.10.3621 DriverDate: 2014-05-15 20-00-00
VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 Memory: 4,293,918,720 Processor: GeForce GTX 970 DriverVer: 9.18.13.4725 DriverDate: 2015-01-08 19-00-00
Display0: 1920x1080 32bits 60Hz
Display1: 1680x1050 32bits 59Hz
Display2: 1920x1080 32bits 60Hz
SoundDevice: Realtek High Definition Audio Manufacturer: Realtek
SoundDevice: USB Audio Device Manufacturer: (Generic USB Audio)
SoundDevice: Intel(R) Display Audio Manufacturer: Intel(R) Corporation
SoundDevice: VB-Audio VoiceMeeter VAIO Manufacturer: VB-Audio Software
SoundDevice: VB-Audio Virtual Cable Manufacturer: VB-Audio Software
SoundDevice: NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device (Wave Extensible) (WDM) Manufacturer: NVIDIA
SoundDevice: Screaming Bee Audio Manufacturer: Screaming Bee LLC
SoundDevice: Creative Audigy Audio Processor (WDM) Manufacturer: Creative Technology, Ltd.
SoundDevice: HD Pro Webcam C920 Manufacturer: Logitech
SoundDevice: NVIDIA High Definition Audio Manufacturer: NVIDIA

[Audio Device]
SPDIF Out (2- Sound Blaster Audigy 5/Rx) - CoreAudioOut
VoiceMeeter Input (VB-Audio VoiceMeeter VAIO) - CoreAudioOut
CABLE Input (VB-Audio Virtual Cable) - CoreAudioOut
Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio) - CoreAudioOut
Speakers (2- Sound Blaster Audigy 5/Rx) - CoreAudioOut
Speakers (Yeti Stereo Microphone) - CoreAudioOut
LG TV-C (NVIDIA High Definition Audio) - CoreAudioOut
Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio) - CoreAudioOut
Line-In (2- Sound Blaster Audigy 5/Rx) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 50
Microphone (2- Sound Blaster Audigy 5/Rx) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 50
Microphone (Yeti Stereo Microphone) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 100
CABLE Output (VB-Audio Virtual Cable) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 49
"What U Hear" (2- Sound Blaster Audigy 5/Rx) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 50
VoiceMeeter Output (VB-Audio VoiceMeeter VAIO) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 49
Microphone (Screaming Bee Audio) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 100
Stereo Mix (Realtek High Definition Audio) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 100
Microphone (HD Pro Webcam C920) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 100

[Video Codec]
Dxtory Video Codec FCC:xtor
Bandi MJPEG Video Decoder FCC:mjpg
Bandi MPEG-1 Video Decoder FCC:mpeg
Cinepak Codec by Radius FCC:cvid
FICV Codec FCC:ficv
Intel IYUV codec FCC:iyuv
Lagarith Lossless Codec FCC:lags
Logitech Video (I420) FCC:i420
Microsoft RLE FCC:mrle
Microsoft Video 1 FCC:msvc

[Audio Codec]
Microsoft IMA ADPCM
Microsoft CCITT G.711
Microsoft GSM 6.10
MS-ADPCM
PCM
IEEE Float

[License Information]
License: Registered
Expire: Unlimited
LicVerify: 22571386021a7399f3bae241351cb5eb7617198c

[Additional Information]
Dxtory_log.txt: Empty
ErrorLog.txt: Available Size=13888

[Global Setting]
OptionFlag=

[Ignore List]
F:\Origin Games\Battlefield 4\bf4.exe
E:\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\Borderlands 2\Binaries\Win32\Borderlands2.exe
H:\Ubisoft\Far Cry 4\bin\FarCry4.exe
F:\SteamGames\SteamApps\common\Transistor\x64\Transistor.exe
D:\Nexon\Vindictus\en-US\Vindictus.exe

======================================================================

[Profile]
Name: Default
Path:

[Overlay]
Option: Right Bottom VidoeFPS RecordState
Color: Sleep FF00FF00, Active FFFFBC00, Movie  FF00FF00, ScreenShot FF00FF00

[Folder]
x H:\Dxtory  Speed: 146MB/sec  Free: 3,182,522,339,328 Total: 4,000,650,883,072 Format: NTFS
SSFolder:

[HotKey]
MovieCapture: Ctrl + F9 (0x00020043)
PushToTalk: None
ScreenShotSingle: F11 (0x00000057)
ScreenShotRepeat: None
ScreenShotAuto: None
ToggleStatus: None
MovieCaptureFrame: None
ScreenShotCaptureFrame: None

[Movie]
Clipping:
ClipMargin: 0,0,0,0
ClipSize: 0,0
Scaling: Size 100% 1920x1080
Codec: Lagarith Lossless Codec, Quality 10000, KeyFrameRate 15, DataRate 0
FrameRate: 30
Output: File AVI
Option:

[Audio0]
Enabled: True
PushToTalk: False
Device: VoiceMeeter Input (VB-Audio VoiceMeeter VAIO)
Codec: PCM
Format: PCM 48000 Hz, 16 bit, Stereo

[Audio1]
Enabled: True
PushToTalk: False
Device: VoiceMeeter Output (VB-Audio VoiceMeeter VAIO)
Codec: PCM
Format: PCM 48000 Hz, 16 bit, Stereo

[Audio2]
Enabled: True
PushToTalk: False
Device: CABLE Input (VB-Audio Virtual Cable)
Codec: PCM
Format: PCM 48000 Hz, 16 bit, Stereo

[ScreenShot]
Clipping:
ClipMargin: 0,0,0,0
ClipSize: 0,0
Scaling: Percent 100% 0x0
HighSpeedLimit: 0
RepeatInterval: 1000
Format: PNG
JpegQuality: 97
Option:

[Advanced]
Option:
ThreadCount: 1
LimitedFPS: False
FPSLimit: 60
DelayHook: False
DelayHookTime: 5

======================================================================

[Profile]
Name: Arma 3
Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Arma 3\arma3.exe

[Advanced]
Option:
ThreadCount: 6
LimitedFPS: True
FPSLimit: 60
DelayHook: False
DelayHookTime: 5

[LastUsingInformation]
DateTime: 2015/02/02 23:03:08
DeviceType: DX10 DX11
View0.Type=DX11
View0.CreateFlag=0
View0.FeatureLevel=D3D_FEATURE_LEVEL_11_0
View0.Format=DXGI_FORMAT_R8G8B8A8_UNORM
View0.Size=1920x1080
View0.HWND=0x00070C4A
View0.WindowTitle=Arma 3
View0.ClassName=Arma 3

======================================================================
VerifyHash: 5cdbdef1c135e3b89cd0acaedfe250361c603195

 

[ExKoder]

GTX970 3.5GB Memory Issue ?

[Malix]

It also could be Lagarith not performing fast enough (you do have the multithreaded option enabled in Lagarith settings?). Also, in dxtory advanced settings -> Thread count could/should be 2.

It could be worthwhile to try Ut Video Codec or MagicYUV instead of Lagarith. Both tend to perform (atleast for me) better than Lagarith, but they produce somewhat bigger files. My personal recommendation would be MagicYUV.

MagicYUV: http://magicyuv.com/
Ut Video Codec: http://umezawa.dyndns.info/wordpress/?cat=28

[InfernalRage]

GTX970 3.5GB Memory Issue ?

I have an EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 4GB graphics card if that helps at all.  What would the memory issue be though and is there anyway to fix it?

It also could be Lagarith not performing fast enough (you do have the multithreaded option enabled in Lagarith settings?). Also, in dxtory advanced settings -> Thread count could/should be 2.

It could be worthwhile to try Ut Video Codec or MagicYUV instead of Lagarith. Both tend to perform (atleast for me) better than Lagarith, but they produce somewhat bigger files. My personal recommendation would be MagicYUV.

MagicYUV: http://magicyuv.com/
Ut Video Codec: http://umezawa.dyndns.info/wordpress/?cat=28

I do have multithreading enabled in the Lagarith settings.  I tried 2 and I was getting slightly better performance, but still around 8 FPS drop.  Would forcing CPU processing help at all?  I'll give MagicYUV a shot today and post back my results.

Thank you for your replies and assistance.

[Malix]

GTX970 3.5GB Memory Issue ?

I have an EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SSC ACX 2.0 4GB graphics card if that helps at all.  What would the memory issue be though and is there anyway to fix it?

All gtx970 cards are affected, the deal is that 3.5GB of the VRAM works full speed, last 500MB works 1/8th or so speed. Wether or not this is the case in this particular case, dunno. Could be if ExKoder says so

I do have multithreading enabled in the Lagarith settings.  I tried 2 and I was getting slightly better performance, but still around 8 FPS drop.  Would forcing CPU processing help at all?  I'll give MagicYUV a shot today and post back my results.

Thank you for your replies and assistance.

Definately a possible case of maybe on the CPU processing, try it out? Though, I'd wager the MagicYUV should do the trick. Also, seeing as your recording drive is ~140MB/s, might be a good idea to not record RGB (or unchanged/source colorspace in MagicYUV), rather try out 4:2:0 or such. They don't degrade the image quality noticeably but it will ease the stress on hdd quite a bit.

[InfernalRage]

Definately a possible case of maybe on the CPU processing, try it out? Though, I'd wager the MagicYUV should do the trick. Also, seeing as your recording drive is ~140MB/s, might be a good idea to not record RGB (or unchanged/source colorspace in MagicYUV), rather try out 4:2:0 or such. They don't degrade the image quality noticeably but it will ease the stress on hdd quite a bit.

Would you happen to have a list of the best settings for MagicYUV or a simple guide?

[Malix]

Definately a possible case of maybe on the CPU processing, try it out? Though, I'd wager the MagicYUV should do the trick. Also, seeing as your recording drive is ~140MB/s, might be a good idea to not record RGB (or unchanged/source colorspace in MagicYUV), rather try out 4:2:0 or such. They don't degrade the image quality noticeably but it will ease the stress on hdd quite a bit.

Would you happen to have a list of the best settings for MagicYUV or a simple guide?

As seen in offtopic-subforum, user De-M-oN posted this: http://www.letsplayforum.de/index.php/Thread/138529-MagicYUV-Ein-neuer-Lossless-Codec/

I don't understand german, but the screenshot of MagicYUV settings helps.

[InfernalRage]

Thanks for that.  I am still getting FPS drop with MagicYUV.  I tried 2-4 processing threads and it didn't really have much of an impact.

[astrix_au]

Why don't you use all 8 threads?

[InfernalRage]

I get about 10-15 FPS drop when using all 8 threads.  I've tried to force CPU processing, varying the thread count, but I still can't get that 1080p @ 30FPS to record without interfering with game performance.

[Malix]

Just in ARMA3 or does this apply to other games as well? Have you tried checking the Use Asynchronous somethingortheother in advanced tab? It did wonders for my One Finger Death Punch -recording, as without it the fps dipped to ~40 constantly. With async on, it was smooth 60fps capture all the time.

[InfernalRage]

I still get a slight drop, averaging 10, but then sometimes only 4-5.  I don't have any other game installed at the moment, but I will try when I do get it installed.  I'll keep messing with the settings. 

I appreciate the help so far and am open to suggestions.

[InfernalRage]

So my buddy has an i7-4930k and a GTX 780 and he can record 1080P at 60FPS with 3-4 FPS drop.
I have an i7-4790k and GTX 970, but I get 10FPS drop at 1080P at 30FPS.

I've tried tweaking multiple settings and multiple codecs, but nothing seems to work. Our machines are pretty comparable I believe, so I don't get why mine wouldn't be able to handle it.