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Ian

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Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« on: June 09, 2013, 07:54:39 pm »
Hello, i just bought DXTory but when i record the clips seem to lag and i also lag in-game.
Since i'm not so smart on computer specs and stuff i was wondering if anyone could help me out with what i should replace in my pc :)

PC SPECS: (Taken from DXdiag)
Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor (6 CPUs), ~3,2GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580

I got a seperate Harddisk with 1 TB of memory and when i tested it on DXTory it had 30 MB/Sec

If there is more you need to know just write it and i will try to find it.
I hope someone is able to help me so i can get recording without lag ^^

EDIT:
If anyone got any recommendations on other things in my pc which would need an upgrade, please tell me ^^
Maybe you even got a recommendation for what i should upgrade it to? :)
« Last Edit: June 11, 2013, 05:30:43 am by Ian »

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2013, 08:08:11 pm »
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I got a seperate Harddisk with 1 TB of memory and when i tested it on DXTory it had 30 MB/Sec

waaaay too slow.

Dont use USB 2 drives for recording. If external drive, then a USB 3 drive connected on a USB 3 Port, or e-Sata, but not that very limited USB 2.

That would only work with Lagarith (settings: YV12
  • Multithreading) and resolution @ 1280x720.

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2013, 08:10:05 pm »
waaaay too slow.

Dont use USB 2 drives for recording. If external drive, then a USB 3 drive connected on a USB 3 Port, or e-Sata, but not that very limited USB 2.

That would only work with Lagarith (settings: YV12
  • Multithreading) and resolution @ 1280x720.
I'm sorry i do not know what a USB 2 drives is or e-Sata or anything >.<
I'm higly uintelligent when it comes to this kind of stuff :/

+ what is a good write speed?
« Last Edit: June 09, 2013, 08:20:39 pm by Ian »

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2013, 08:39:04 pm »
Please submit a Environment Information.

http://forum.exkode.com/index.php?topic=2.0

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2013, 08:40:48 pm »
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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2013, 09:28:33 pm »
Although a result may be the same, test a speed by CrystalDiskMark.
Is it HDD for exclusive use physically?
"Separate" written by you does not mean that it divided as a logical drive?

I think that spec is a little low except a video card.

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2013, 09:39:33 pm »
~30 mbyte/s is the perfect indication that he uses an USB 2 drive.

And with that its impossible to record in RGB colorspace with no compression and even fullHD.

A further problem I see here is the used filesystem on that drive. He wont record very long if he uses FAT32 which its filesize limit per file of 4 GB.

For the actual configuration (DXTory Codec, RGB, no compression, 30fps, 1920x1080)

your drive must be able to write 178 mbyte/s. Yours has 30. You see the problem?  :P

Record on your internal drive. its way faster than a USB 2 drive.

A seperate HDD is recommended, but not USB 2. A further internal or a external but then USB 3 on USB 3 port or e-sata. If you dont know what that is, google it.

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Download Lagarith: http://lags.leetcode.net/LagarithSetup_1327.exe and choose it as your video codec. click on the button next to the codeclist and configure lagarith to yv12 as mode and checkmark multithreading.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2013, 09:41:11 pm by De-M-oN »

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2013, 10:17:15 pm »
ExKoder, I will run a test with that program after i've done exam stuff.
The Seperate harddrive is a drive i got on my table beside me, which is plugged into the pc and power.
So everything in my pc is a little low except my Graphic card or what? :)
If so, got any recommendations for what would be good? ^^

De-M-oN, I will start looking for a usb 3 external then and use the download Lagarith, but what does that codec do better than the standard one? :o

Thanks to both of you for all your help :]

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2013, 10:21:45 pm »
If you buy a USB 3 drive your mainboard must has such USB 3 connectors.
Otherwise the USB 3 Controller of the HDD does a Fallback to USB 2 speed, if your mainboard doesnt support better. And looking at your hardware I highly assume that your mainboard is a mainboard without any USB 3 ports.

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De-M-oN, I will start looking for a usb 3 external then and use the download Lagarith, but what does that codec do better than the standard one? :o

It uses a far better compression (lossless). Uses somewhat more CPU power but with your actual drive situation you need it.

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2013, 10:27:13 pm »
Uhm i just googled it and it came up with 2
http://www.startech.com/media/pages/university/usb3/USB_3_A_to_B.jpg
is it the A or the B that is used and isn't the A one just a normal USB connector?
And if it's the B one can't you just get and adapter for it?

Srry if this sounds confusing, but i really appreciate your help :)

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2013, 10:30:33 pm »
its A.

Because I assume that your mainboard wont have any usb 3 ports, maybe you just should buy a further internal drive.

http://geizhals.de/686480

This one writes up to 196 mbyte/s. ( I have 2 of them in a RAID 0 running and got me to 350 mbyte/s )

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2013, 11:15:12 pm »
mhmm... so if i buy one of those, put it in my pc in connect it to the motherboard and save to that, it would have around 190 mb/sec, if i understood this correctly ^^

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 03:04:01 am »
When i've bought one of those or another one, is there anything else in my pc whcih you would recommend getting updraded?

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 05:30:05 am »
If anyone got any recommendations on other things in my pc which would need an upgrade, please tell me ^^
Maybe you even got a recommendation for what i should upgrade it to? :)

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Re: Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 05:35:05 am »
CPU. GPU is ok already.

But change to Intel.