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Codecs to use with DxTory

Started by Malix, May 15, 2013, 02:23:28 AM

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ShamisOMally

#30
@SidedTech

A) I am schizophrenic, thanks for asking

B) Just because you don't like the codec, yet two other people did, you start with the "Its the same person!" bullcrap? Are you ten-twelve years old?

C) Why would I wait over a MONTH AND HALF LATER to respond back to "Myself" if D-O-M was indeed me? Is Zach also me? It took him two weeks later to make that post

My only conclusion is you're a fricken dick, you need to grow up.

Anyways, BBIAB after texting Masternobodies new AMD VCE x264 codec, which offloads entirely to AMD's GPU, so no CPU encoding

*EDIT2* Review of AMD GPU hardware h264 encoding here, along with settings I found most useful http://forum.exkode.com/index.php?topic=675.0

gunsiht

Thanks for all the info Shamis!

The LameMP3 codec is awesome! it saves a lot of space and its quality is really good.
About the video one, I always use the lagarith. Zero problems and good stability

Regards,
John


De-M-oN

why recording audio lossy then?..

PCM 44100hz, 16bit uses not that much either, there is the video the main factor of filesize.

MP3 uses much more cpu due to the compression.
There are also better audio codecs than mp3, like vorbis, nero aac etc.
If you recompress later your video - you do a 2nd lossy encode of your audio - bad for your audio..

ShamisOMally

#33
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obviouslyjesus

Is there any codec that strikes a balance between the high compression of x264vfw and less compressed codecs like Lagarith and Ut?  Lagarith doesn't perform well enough to record in 1080p30, Ut does but the file sizes aren't viable for me currently (just had a hard drive die on me and the drive I record to now really can't handle 2GB/min, I dare not even think of the lifespan), and x264 performs extremely well, has a great filesize, but as OP said, is basically unusable in Sony Vegas.  I can't even get files to open with Vegas without adding "--keyint 1" to the command line, and even then the preview playback makes them completely non-viable for editing.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

Malix

#36
If you have NVidia card, the geforce experience's shadowplay captured files work pretty well in my sony movie studio 12. I know it's not a dxtory usable codec, but might still work as a temporary solution until you get a new harddrive.

Though, you'd need to think of some other way to record microphone if you want it on a separate track, which is a bit lame :/

edit:
did you try enabling the "fast decode" option in x264vfw?

De-M-oN

MagicYUV compresses almost as good as lagarith, but while that being very fast.

http://magicyuv.com/index.php/about-magicyuv

QuotePerformance

MagicYUV was designed from the ground up to be as fast as possible. During the design of the codec, special choices were made, each of which result in big gains of speed, while minimally affecting compressed video size. These compromises usually meant a 1-3% drop in compression ratio, while giving a 50-100% speed improvement.

The codec is multi-threaded and fully supports multi-core CPUs with near-linear scaling. To further enhance performance all internal frame processing is SSE2 optimized.

And yes the codec is fast.

Use the settings of the image:
http://www.letsplayforum.de/index.php/Thread/138529-MagicYUV-Ein-neuer-Lossless-Codec/

Malix

...and why haven't I heard of this MagicYUV before. This thing is a beast. Thanks De-M-oN!

obviouslyjesus

Quote from: Malix on December 08, 2014, 05:11:38 PM
edit:
did you try enabling the "fast decode" option in x264vfw?
Yes, I have that option enabled.

Also, I was hoping this MagicYUV would be a solution, but it's outputting at 200MB per five seconds, which would be totally non-viable even if I were fortunate enough to have a completely free hard drive to abuse with that much writing.

De-M-oN

It is not recommended at all to already record lossy.

You do the 2nd lossy re-encode and youtube even the 3rd then. If you dont care about quality - go for it ;)
Otherwise you shouldnt record lossy already ..

A HDD with excellent writing speed costs only 45 €.
A HDD is not a SSD. You can write high amount of data. It wont directly die lol.

http://geizhals.de/seagate-barracuda-7200-14-1tb-st1000dm003-a686480.html

very good HDD. Writes 196 mbyte/s. There are also variants with bigger size, just take care that its the 7200.14.

astrix_au

#41
I found Motion JPEG to be awsome on other software but they have created their own codec I believe.

For video editing it's actually great as each frame is new JPEG image and the CPU usage is very low! I think M-JPEG with Mantle will be a awesome recording method that will have no impact on game play on BF4 even at 1440p 135% resolution scale at 120hz on 290x crossfire set up, being able to record 60fps easily on DX11 basically 4K at 120hz (120fps recording would be magical) I couldn't achieve it on DX11 but I think Mantle could do it ;) The other software can record 120fps 4K but I think DX11 was the limiting factor or I only had a 4770k CPU.

De-M-oN

The main problem is also the HDD. You look for good cpu, good gpu, but everytime people forget the HDD. Data isnt going via magic on the drive.

For what you need 4k 120fps to be honest? :S

astrix_au

DXtory needs a Motion JPEG codec it's really great on other software.

soupie

#44
Hi I've been using magicYUV as recommended here and its great, but... can anyone recommend something to re-compress it with? 2 minutes of HD video is nearly 3GB which is fine but it's going to take forever to upload to YouTube... (yes I have a slow connection)

Can anyone recommend anything to re-compress? I'm not bothered about quality (its youtube afterall) but AviDemux doesn't recognise the codec (get a green screen/no playback) VirtualDub + XviD does recognise it but is there anything more modern? Something with an x264 encoder for instance?

thanks.