[Request] NVEnc support in the future?

[RobiePAX]

Why I'm stupid when I record lossless and make a more efficient lossy coding after my recording which results in smaller filesize with more quality?

He possibly is referring to low budget PCs. Personally I have purchased a fast 2TB Hard Drive when I still used Fraps, so I can record over 16 hours of Lossless footages which as you have mentioned is not a bother if you remove the original footage after you finish your encoding of the project. However I see why it could be a problem for people who can't afford fast high capacity Hard Drive.

[ShavedApe]

I too would like to add my support to this thread. It seems to be getting derailed a little by the codec police so I thought I would try and get it back on track.

Choice of codec in dxtory is one of its greatest selling points and features and the best part is that it is personal choice! lets keep that way shall we instead of being insulted if you choose one someone doesn't like.

[Line40]

I'd like to second this request too.

I think with the release of the high end Maxwell cards, and the need to really be able to do some 4k recording, it's high time for Dxtory to start suppporting a hardware codec that takes some burden off the CPU and hard disk, like NVENC, or Quicksync.
Both do a decent job in other software (Shadowplay, Afterburner, Bandicam), but those all are lacking in one respect or the other, so it would be nice to have the only software that does everything right (Dxtory of course), to fill that one functionality gap.

Cheers

Line40

[De-M-oN]

hell.. buy a fast hard disk and use a good lossless codec like magicYUV and your fps wont go down with cpu either. --- and you dont need to record lossy.

It can be sooo simple ...

[Line40]

hell.. buy a fast hard disk and use a good lossless codec like magicYUV and your fps wont go down with cpu either. --- and you dont need to record lossy.

It can be sooo simple ...

Do you actually record in 4k using that setup, or is that just a guess? Because the fps drop from magicYUV is just about the same as with utvideo in my experience.

[ShavedApe]

Would be nice to have some form of official acknowledgement on this, its been available for a while now and while there are alternatives out there I still like dxtory and since I paid for it and it has all the features I want except this one I would like to stick with it.

That is despite recording to SSD's and having GTX780 TI OC and 4790k Overclocked just incase you are wondering Demon but please don't reply i'm not interested in the slightest in anything you have to say i'm perfectly happy with my choices thank you.

[POOP]

I originally asked because I do not care about the quality of the video so much as it's all going on youtube anyway.
I don't use DXtory anymore as Shadowplay is great for recording in general (rarely use manual record, just shadow), however lots of games it will not hook to but DXtory will, so it'd be nice to have that as a backup.

I have a 3930k OC'd to 4.3GHz, but I would still prefer to use 1%~ of my GPU power to encode.

[astrix_au]

You can add AMD VCE support here > https://github.com/jackun/openencodevfw but it's limited to 1080p.

I found Motion JPEG to give amazing quality for file size, 1440p 60fps I recorded at 175Mbps and it looked amazing. I was recording BF4 at 1440p 120hz and 135% resolution scale. I was able to record on a 7200 rpm drive! Below is a screenshot using the Windows print screen button on a paused video I recorded in Bandicam using Motion MJPEG at 170Mbps.

This image looks amazing in the video with the effects, particles and smoke this images doesn't do it justice! Who needs lagarith and it's crazy video sizes, this was recoded with Quality 70 at 170Mbps quality 100 is 250Mbps! I'm pretty sure that can be recorded on a 7200rpm HD! Not sure if screen print is the best way to show it but it looks the same. It's the Adobe, vegas and premier preset in bandicam.




Bandicam has SDK's available for games but you could ask them if you can use their Motion JPEG codec or get your own, I would love for you guys to add it to DXtory!

Below are the BF4 settings I used to record the video, but it's not perfect as there is some lag but that is DX11, Mantle is the perfect thing, it's will remove the lag and that will be amazing!! My experience with mantle so far it records with no input lag!
http://f.cl.ly/items/040h1u16071X171e3Q0t/ScreenshotWin32-0057.png

Below is a video I uploaded to youtube, I used the settings above, imported it to Adobe Premier pro then I exported the video to 9.2Mbps as that is what youtube will convert 1440p to anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLsKm3CuyDU

DXTory dev can get access to Mantle SDK here > http://developer.amd.com/mantle/ Mantle will be the future of high performance recording!!!

[mouse]

Registered an account just to show my interest in this feature.
I'd really like to see nvenc support in DXTory.

[astrix_au]

It is not trash to recommend people to do record lossless. There are lots of people who even dont know that recording lossless is better method. at letsplay forum many people were very thankful that their quality vs filesize got improved as we told them to do the recording lossless.
editing of lossless material is way faster as well.

Some of us want to record 1440p 60fps and this can't be done on a normal HD, only 30fps. I can do it with bandi and M-Jpeg at 170Mbps with minimal sometimes no effect but other times unfortunately it's noticeable.

Truth is nothing compares to recording on Mantle...  and I don't mean OBS or windowed i'm talking about full screen and crossfire. No effect and small sizes even though 720p is only working for now but the 1080p bug surely will be fixed soon. Here's hoping DXtory will support it. I shared the link to the SDK so i hope they go that route but the other company should squash the tarring and flickering bug soon on 1080p mantle recording with VCE.

It works so well that I when from capturing 1440p 60fps tp only capturing 720p for now till 1080p is fixed, you guys will know what i'm talking about when DX12 comes out in a few years.

[De-M-oN]

I record in 2560x1600, 60fps

2 seagate barracuda configured as RAID 0

One HDD should be enough though if its fast as a barracuda and not these slow 100 mbyte ones.

NVEnc in Maxwell cards support Lossless though. That would be more interesting then.
But it may be not the performance like at shadowplay.

See here:

NVEnc in MSI Afterburner has for me the same fps drop at Rise Of The Triad 2013 like with the CPU Encoder. Only if you use Shadowplay directly you lose no fps. But unfortunately Shadowplay is the worst NVEnc implementation in every other way..

[ShavedApe]

That is despite recording to SSD's and having GTX780 TI OC and 4790k Overclocked

What a bullshit.

I have 2 harddisks set to RAID 0 and a i7 3770k and a gtx 680 and can record with it in 2560x1600, 60fps without any drop or if a more cpu intensive game a slight drop.

Recording lossy kills efficiency for later filters you use in video editors (if you use them) and for later encoder it is bad as well - audio and video - if the source material is already lossy. If you upload it to youtube you have the 3rd lossy encode. Result is a garbage blocky image on youtube. Far more than necessary. But if you're still happy with such a solution - okay.. but hard to believe that this does satisfy you.

whats bullshit mr codec police?

The fact that i record using an SSD? how the f*ck would you know if I do or not please feel free to let me know how I can prove it and I will be happy to do so? Or was it that yet again you are jumping in trying to tell people their choices are invalid because bla bla bla lossy bla bla
I find it funny how you know what hardware I am using and call bullshit on it id be happy to provide receipts if you like.

We CHOSE to buy this program and we have a CHOICE how we use it, You don't have to like it but its almost like you feel its your place to tell people they are wrong if they don't do it the way you like. We heard you already, move on its really not that important if someone you don't even know records in lossless format it really doesn't effect you in any way.

Bottom line and excuse me if you have heard this before nobody cares for your opinion because you have expressed it enough already usually in quite an insulting way. We are all allowed freedom of choice just like you choose to reply despite being asked not to we choose use codecs that are lossy and you know what most of us are more than happy with that despite any of your reasons why we shouldn't be so perhaps its time to move on and get over yourself.

Oh btw unless your reply is how I can prove what hardware I use to record I wont be bothering to read it. Ive read your drivel so many times already I wont be wasting my time with you again.

[ShavedApe]

Bullshit is, that you say you need a SSD for recording in 60fps.

You seem to be having issues with reading let me clarify for you at no point did I say I NEED an SSD for recording at 60fps simply that I use and SSD for recording because I choose to not because I have to. Try reading in future then you wont look so stupid.

As for your questions I have no interest in helping you derail this thread further you have made your point more than once and despite being told nobody cares you still go down this crusaders path to change the way we record and which codec we choose to do it with. How I choose to do things is my CHOICE and it shall remain that way even if you dont like it.

Why is it so important to you that people don't have this choice I wonder. Actually no ignore that I really really don't care.
Feel free to reply though no doubt you will which will be a waste because I wont be bothering to read it but hey if you got time to waste here at least your not bothering others elsewhere with constant droning on.

[ShavedApe]

lol take a look at your fist reply to me then take a step back and ask yourself whos being aggressive. Then do yourself a favour and walk away because nobody cares. I really don't see why you don't get that you've been told enough.

Oh and BTW i already answered your question we want Nvenc because its our CHOICE we should be able to choose it even if as you say there is no performance benefit its still nice to have choice now please exercise your right to choice by choosing not to reply to me as I requested much earlier in the thread.

[mouse]

Having tried bandicam with nvenc vs a variety of different codecs and recording software, nvenc definitely saw much better performance, despite using a standard hook.