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Lag when recording - What should i upgrade in my pc?

Started by Ian, June 09, 2013, 07:54:39 PM

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Ian

Hello, i just bought DXTory but when i record the clips seem to lag and i also lag in-game.
Since i'm not so smart on computer specs and stuff i was wondering if anyone could help me out with what i should replace in my pc :)

PC SPECS: (Taken from DXdiag)
Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
Processor: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor (6 CPUs), ~3,2GHz
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580

I got a seperate Harddisk with 1 TB of memory and when i tested it on DXTory it had 30 MB/Sec

If there is more you need to know just write it and i will try to find it.
I hope someone is able to help me so i can get recording without lag ^^

EDIT:
Quote from: Ian on June 11, 2013, 05:30:05 AM
If anyone got any recommendations on other things in my pc which would need an upgrade, please tell me ^^
Maybe you even got a recommendation for what i should upgrade it to? :)

De-M-oN

QuoteI got a seperate Harddisk with 1 TB of memory and when i tested it on DXTory it had 30 MB/Sec

waaaay too slow.

Dont use USB 2 drives for recording. If external drive, then a USB 3 drive connected on a USB 3 Port, or e-Sata, but not that very limited USB 2.

That would only work with Lagarith (settings: YV12
  • Multithreading) and resolution @ 1280x720.

Ian

Quote from: De-M-oN on June 09, 2013, 08:08:11 PM
waaaay too slow.

Dont use USB 2 drives for recording. If external drive, then a USB 3 drive connected on a USB 3 Port, or e-Sata, but not that very limited USB 2.

That would only work with Lagarith (settings: YV12
  • Multithreading) and resolution @ 1280x720.
I'm sorry i do not know what a USB 2 drives is or e-Sata or anything >.<
I'm higly uintelligent when it comes to this kind of stuff :/

+ what is a good write speed?

ExKoder


Ian

[Dxtory]
Version: 2.0.122
UID: 6ce76560-9d7e-4b74-adf0-aa766e34d237

[Dxtory Files]
InstallPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Dxtory Software\Dxtory2.0
AudioStreamSplitter.exe: FileVersion: 1.0.0.0 SHA1: f2f729dc20a4f399704e99beeca855e85e5b9286
AVIFix.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.119 SHA1: 7a09d66397e59a821aa710e53f9e241f77a7792a
AVIMux.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.120 SHA1: 5196d86b22e66459b4dececc675099f8dd16422b
AVIMuxCore.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.3 SHA1: 77f91e5cbdb6516492937b09e8779fbfce339ad0
Dxtory.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.122 SHA1: 00d54133c207095e5295368f24186d933257d2df
Dxtory64.exe: FileVersion: 1.0.0.60 SHA1: 14e3f06e6f2afb2dcb8dec2813586253fc58d86b
DxtoryAudioHelper.dll: FileVersion: 1.0.0.79 SHA1: 1e11c70e2f744fe9fcb95402c955d14f3d9503ce
DxtoryCore.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.122 SHA1: bac6c8055f3612f9e7eca5bc32dac79b787e1a86
DxtoryCore64.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.122 SHA1: 11b4a0095aeba166563095c9c4207c868c90ae5b
DxtoryHK.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.121 SHA1: 0917315496e3c6fad5c171ae730cb9f7a3eddda5
DxtoryHK64.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.121 SHA1: ed965a2f95b156329cfe8f12c58415e05ad282c0
DxtoryMM.dll: FileVersion: 1.0.0.1 SHA1: 82eeaf2ec6ddd70f887ea5e20a80be718600b230
DxtoryMM64.dll: FileVersion: 1.0.0.1 SHA1: c142da021338ef96d13dc82c70c6ba2a443d1108
DxtoryVideo.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.97 SHA1: b9c1ff13a061e189affef9ae37f5ae142450b189
DxtoryVideo64.dll: FileVersion: 2.0.0.97 SHA1: 497ef3f62908d7a1f9362fc347198b900fc7c131
DxtoryVideoSetting.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.119 SHA1: adb248b7eca7001e64ba19054807ab6556126a87
LicReg.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.3 SHA1: d68fe1f3b1eb8c3a3e66af99810835f43ca40c59
RawCapConv.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.119 SHA1: fe5c173b64236219c1a464db3ae117a8d53deded
RCStream.dll: FileVersion: 1.0.0.76 SHA1: 31266452f142cd7c856384945ffc410b2c9c8be9
unins000.exe: FileVersion: 51.1052.0.0 SHA1: c46876d124ae3b93d64960eda6d6253a33639481
UpdateChecker.exe: FileVersion: 2.0.0.0 SHA1: 221bd3663f4393b368ebf74d1a892f9379ddbe44

[System Information]
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor
CPU Instruction Set: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 3DNow! E3DNow! SSE4a
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate  x64
OSVersion: 6.1.7601
OSLanguage: 1030
ServicePack: Service Pack 1
Memory0: BANK0 2,147,483,648 bytes
Memory1: BANK1 2,147,483,648 bytes
TotalMemory: 4,294,967,296 bytes
Total Physical Memory: 4,293,058,560 bytes
Available Physical Memory: 925,245,440 bytes
Total Page File: 8,584,212,480 bytes
Available Page File: 3,970,854,912 bytes
Total Virtual Memory: 2,147,352,576 bytes
Available Virtual Memory: 1,786,089,472 bytes
PerformanceCounterFrequency: 3135478 (0x2FD7F6)
VideoCard: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Memory: 1,610,285,056 Processor: GeForce GTX 580 DriverVer: 9.18.13.1407 DriverDate: 2013-02-09 01-00-00
Display0: 1920x1080 32bits 60Hz
SoundDevice: NVIDIA High Definition Audio Manufacturer: NVIDIA
SoundDevice: NVIDIA High Definition Audio Manufacturer: NVIDIA
SoundDevice: USB-lydenhed Manufacturer: (Standard USB-lyd)
SoundDevice: NVIDIA High Definition Audio Manufacturer: NVIDIA
SoundDevice: Enheden High Definition Audio Manufacturer: Microsoft
SoundDevice: NVIDIA High Definition Audio Manufacturer: NVIDIA

[Audio Device]
Højttalere (USB PnP Sound Device) - CoreAudioOut
Mikrofon (Enheden High Definition Audio) - CoreAudioIn, Volume 100

[Video Codec]
Dxtory Video Codec FCC:xtor
Cinepak Codec efter Radius FCC:cvid
Fraps Video Decompressor FCC:fps1
Intel IYUV codec FCC:i420
Intel IYUV codec FCC:iyuv
Lagarith Lossless Codec FCC:lags
Microsoft RLE FCC:mrle
Microsoft Video 1 FCC:msvc

[Audio Codec]
Microsoft IMA ADPCM
Microsoft CCITT G.711
Microsoft GSM 6.10
MS-ADPCM
PCM
IEEE Float

[License Information]
License: Registered
Expire: Unlimited
LicVerify: c1d35d42785790a9e96d9263779daaa325d499aa

[Additional Information]
Dxtory_log.txt: Empty
ErrorLog.txt: Empty

[Global Setting]
OptionFlag=

[Ignore List]

======================================================================

[Profile]
Name: Default
Path:

[Overlay]
Option: Left Top VidoeFPS WriteFileFPS RecordState
Color: Sleep FF00FF00, Active FFFFBC00, Movie  FF00FF00, ScreenShot FF00FF00

[Folder]
x E:\Ian\Dxtory vids  Speed: 0MB/sec  Free: 820,664,893,440 Total: 999,957,037,056 Format: FAT32
x C:  Speed: 0MB/sec  Free: 1,488,619,200,512 Total: 2,000,291,885,056 Format: NTFS
SSFolder:

[HotKey]
MovieCapture: F8 (0x00000042)
PushToTalk: None
ScreenShotSingle: F11 (0x00000057)
ScreenShotRepeat: None
ScreenShotAuto: None
ToggleStatus: None
MovieCaptureFrame: None
ScreenShotCaptureFrame: None

[Movie]
Clipping:
ClipMargin: 0,0,0,0
ClipSize: 0,0
Scaling: Percent 100% 0x0
Codec: Dxtory Video Codec, RGB
FrameRate: 30
Output: File AVI
Option:

[Audio0]
Enabled: True
PushToTalk: False
Device: Højttalere (USB PnP Sound Device)
Codec: PCM
Format: PCM 48000 Hz, 16 bit, Stereo

[ScreenShot]
Clipping:
ClipMargin: 0,0,0,0
ClipSize: 0,0
Scaling: Percent 100% 0x0
HighSpeedLimit: 0
RepeatInterval: 1000
Format: PNG
JpegQuality: 97
Option:

[Advanced]
Option:
ThreadCount: 1
LimitedFPS: False
FPSLimit: 60
DelayHook: False
DelayHookTime: 5

======================================================================

[Profile]
Name: League of Legends (TM) Client
Path: C:\Users\Ian\Documents\LOLReplay\data\3.7.0.328\League Of Legends.exe

[Advanced]
Option:
ThreadCount: 1
LimitedFPS: False
FPSLimit: 60
DelayHook: False
DelayHookTime: 5

[LastUsingInformation]
DateTime: 2013-06-09 11:45:33
DeviceType: OGL DX7 DX9 DX10 DX10.1 DX11
View0.Type=DX9
View0.DevType=D3DDEVTYPE_HAL
View0.BhFlags=D3DCREATE_MULTITHREADED D3DCREATE_HARDWARE_VERTEXPROCESSING
View0.Format=D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
View0.Size=1920x1080
View0.HWND=0x00050520
View0.WindowTitle=League of Legends (TM) Client
View0.ClassName=RiotWindowClass

======================================================================
VerifyHash: b3415bb690a9372b87240e3f377439055b63ecf6

ExKoder

Although a result may be the same, test a speed by CrystalDiskMark.
Is it HDD for exclusive use physically?
"Separate" written by you does not mean that it divided as a logical drive?

I think that spec is a little low except a video card.

De-M-oN

#6
~30 mbyte/s is the perfect indication that he uses an USB 2 drive.

And with that its impossible to record in RGB colorspace with no compression and even fullHD.

A further problem I see here is the used filesystem on that drive. He wont record very long if he uses FAT32 which its filesize limit per file of 4 GB.

For the actual configuration (DXTory Codec, RGB, no compression, 30fps, 1920x1080)

your drive must be able to write 178 mbyte/s. Yours has 30. You see the problem?  :P

Record on your internal drive. its way faster than a USB 2 drive.

A seperate HDD is recommended, but not USB 2. A further internal or a external but then USB 3 on USB 3 port or e-sata. If you dont know what that is, google it.

__

Download Lagarith: http://lags.leetcode.net/LagarithSetup_1327.exe and choose it as your video codec. click on the button next to the codeclist and configure lagarith to yv12 as mode and checkmark multithreading.

Ian

ExKoder, I will run a test with that program after i've done exam stuff.
The Seperate harddrive is a drive i got on my table beside me, which is plugged into the pc and power.
So everything in my pc is a little low except my Graphic card or what? :)
If so, got any recommendations for what would be good? ^^

De-M-oN, I will start looking for a usb 3 external then and use the download Lagarith, but what does that codec do better than the standard one? :o

Thanks to both of you for all your help :]

De-M-oN

If you buy a USB 3 drive your mainboard must has such USB 3 connectors.
Otherwise the USB 3 Controller of the HDD does a Fallback to USB 2 speed, if your mainboard doesnt support better. And looking at your hardware I highly assume that your mainboard is a mainboard without any USB 3 ports.

QuoteDe-M-oN, I will start looking for a usb 3 external then and use the download Lagarith, but what does that codec do better than the standard one? :o

It uses a far better compression (lossless). Uses somewhat more CPU power but with your actual drive situation you need it.

Ian

Uhm i just googled it and it came up with 2
http://www.startech.com/media/pages/university/usb3/USB_3_A_to_B.jpg
is it the A or the B that is used and isn't the A one just a normal USB connector?
And if it's the B one can't you just get and adapter for it?

Srry if this sounds confusing, but i really appreciate your help :)

De-M-oN

its A.

Because I assume that your mainboard wont have any usb 3 ports, maybe you just should buy a further internal drive.

http://geizhals.de/686480

This one writes up to 196 mbyte/s. ( I have 2 of them in a RAID 0 running and got me to 350 mbyte/s )

Ian

mhmm... so if i buy one of those, put it in my pc in connect it to the motherboard and save to that, it would have around 190 mb/sec, if i understood this correctly ^^

Ian

When i've bought one of those or another one, is there anything else in my pc whcih you would recommend getting updraded?

Ian

If anyone got any recommendations on other things in my pc which would need an upgrade, please tell me ^^
Maybe you even got a recommendation for what i should upgrade it to? :)

De-M-oN